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David Baldwin
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I need bigger a disc

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I currently have M2 2TB disc to store the dynamic hauptwerk files and it is now full. I plan to purchase a second drive like this and "merge it" with the current drive to form a bigger drive. I have no experience of doing such things and am looking for advice. The PC has 128GB ram and i9 processor. and only runs Hauptwerk and related programmes.
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Take it to a PC repair place, and have them add the hard drive. At least that will solve the tech side of it! You'll have two drives show up, but it will leave your current installation intact. You can delete your cache files, and that will give you some time, but then you'll have to generate new cache files for every organ you want to play. Where do you store your installation files if you store them? That's the first thing I'd move to the new drive if you keep them. If you move those to an external drive, then you'll have lots of space on the two drives in your system. The ideal would be to have your cache files on one drive, Hauptwerk installation files on the other, but I'm not sure that's possible.

Now, you can merge the two drives, say using a RAID configuration, but that will require you to format the existing drive, thus causing you to lose everything. So you'd have to reinstall everything and regenerate all your caches.

Maybe there's other options I'm not thinking of, but I'm sure others will respond.
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Merging two drives (a RAID configuration) is more technical than necessary. You can buy an external (or second internal) SSD, say a 2TB or 4TB external SSD on USB, rerun the Hauptwerk installer, select a Custom install, and tell it to put your SamplesetsAndComponents directory on the external drive. That's what I do. You can also move InternalWorkingFiles (cache) to the external drive, but I found it loaded organs slower.

P.S. I bought external SSDs on Amazon.
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Hello David,

To add to Larason2's/Mark's replies (thanks very much as always), in case you decide to move some of your Hauptwerk installation files (e.g. caches, or sample sets) to an external drive, in v9.0.0 the section on changing installation locations starting on page 9 of the advanced user guide ("Other | Help | View advanced user guide" from the touch menu) has instructions.

[I'll move this topic to the "Computer hardware / specs" section of the forum once you've had a chance to read this reply.]
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Just to complete the picture. There is a 2TB hard drive on which all the windows stuff and all the hauptwerk installation files reside. The hauptwerk cache files are on the M2 2TB. I have a second slot for another M2 drive. Perhaps the most secure route is to use that for a 4TB drive. The first M2 dtive only has Hauptwerk cache files and it is that which is full.
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Which drive has SamplesetsAndComponents?
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The drive which has the SamplesSets&Components is the M2 Drive which is now full. Along with it are InternalWorkingFiles and UserData.
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Okay, you said the M2 only has cache, but that would be only InternalWorkingFiles. SamplesetsAndComponents is usually larger, and can be moved away. If there's space, you could move that to the other drive.
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Could I just add a second M2 and transfer one of those 3 folders to it.
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Yes. Make sure InternalWorkingFiles (cache) is on the fastest drive -- the one with the highest sustained read rate.
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If you are going to add an M.2 drive, you should check that this will not adversely affect the performance of the existing M.2. Some motherboards can only run one M.2 at top speed.

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I have filled my 2TB SSD. It contains only the 3 folders which need to be fast. I have purchased another disc, the same ass the first. I plan to move the WorkingFiles directory only to this.
I can't find any instructions in the manual to do this nor the post when I asked how to install the first one. I seem to remember that I have to run the latest version of HW Install but can't remember how I would split these files.
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Hello David,

The "Hauptwerk instruments" section of the forum is intended for discussions about sample sets (as opposed to Hauptwerk systems as a whole; the term 'instrument' is referring to 'sample set' in this case).

Since your previous topic appeared originally to be related to how to add a drive to the PC, I had moved it to the "Computer hardware/specs" section of the forum:

https://forum.hauptwerk.com/viewtopic.php?t=21521

At the very top-right of the website, you should see a Hauptwerk logo by your forum username. That shows a drop-down menu, and if you select "User Control Panel" from it, then "Board preferences | Edit posting defaults", and turn on the "Notify me upon replies by default" option then you'll get emailed automatically by the forum software whenever anyone replies to your subsequent topics (such as when/if a topic gets moved).

I'll merge this topic into your previous topic (above) once you've had a chance to read this reply.

(As mentioned in that topic), to move part of an existing Hauptwerk installation, you need to re-run the Hauptwerk installer, select its "Custom" option, and, when prompted for installation locations, change just the one that you want to move, i.e. "Internal working data". (Don't change the others -- they default to their existing locations.) The installer will then move the relevant folders. When you next load any given organ it will be slow to load the first time, since its cache will be regenerated automatically.
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Sorry about that. I was thinking hard about how to do it and must have lost my concentration.
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Thanks, David. No problem at all. I've merged the new topic into this original one now.
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